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Reply-To: <claddagh@iwl.net>
From: "Mark O'Brien" <claddagh@iwl.net>
To: "Aidan O'Rourke" <aidan@anamaria.u-net.com>
Subject: Champions of the last Millennium !!
Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 20:59:29 -0500

Congratulations to all the people involved with Manchester United Football Club. I cannot think of any other team so deserving, of their good fortune, and incredible talent, that they have displayed over years past. What a fitting ending to this Millennium, I watched the game over here in Houston Texas and was aching to be with my friends back in old blighty. I only wish I could be there, ( England ) cheering on the team as they drive down Deansgate, what a day that will be.

Thanks Aidan for the rundown on the atmosphere around the centre after the game, kinda made me feel I was there. Once again, THANK YOU MUFC and Happy Birthday Sir Matt wherever you may be. Yours sincerely Mark O'Brien.
Yours sincerely

Mark O'Brien.

Great to hear that. Hope you liked the pictures too!


From: Jdvprod@aol.com
Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 00:41:17 EDT
Subject: Re: EWM Extra update
To: aidan@anamaria.u-net.com

<< www.manchesteronline.co.uk/ewm/newsletter/ewm321b.html >>
CONGRATULATIONS MUFC! Would like to have seen all three games. Can we buy the Video?
Keep up the good work!

Ken Dickens

Thanks for your message. Yes, I think you probably can - from the Manchester United official website.


From: Sonia Morris <soniamorris@start.com.au>
To: "aidan@anamaria.u-net.com" <aidan@anamaria.u-net.com>
Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 11:36:17 "GMT"
Subject: Re: EWM Extra update


I've just read your description of your car drive through Manchester, and I'm in tears, so proud of Man United, and so envious of those who were there to witness so much excitement, and wondering for the umpteenth time, why did I ever leave.

I can empathise with that! Glad you liked the description.


From: "Mr James Turner" <jturner@net2000.com.au>
To: <aidan@anamaria.u-net.com>
Subject: downunder
Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 11:59:55 +1000

hi aidan
just a few lines to let you know that i am still alive and up to date off what you have been doing. Ihave not been able to get that pic of the [metropole theatre] as yet ,waiting for people who have an old pic of it to send it to m. Anyway in the meantime I'm sending you some that my son took while over there in March


[bulls head reddish] crn.reddish lane&thornley lane. [ sign ] on the
corner off ashton old road & grey mare lane.[openshaw] red building,was
the ,britania pub, far left was the grey mare pub, near left was , burtons,and near right was a bank? all there
in the 60s g,greatbanks will know off these.

Any way keep up the good work its great to be on line with you, [up M/C United [great match now got three, and they
will be down under in july

all the best jim turner

Thanks. Who are the two in picture number three, standing next to Dyer St.

hi Aidan the pic Dyer st was taken in July 98 in the 50s there was 5 shops . no1.was boot & shoe repairs, that was our shop] no3 was toffee shop [ no5,was a soup kitchen] no7.& no9 not sure what they were in the 50s. ln 60s they were changed into house fronts, and they faced the Salvation Army, which is now a second hand car yard. The pic in Dyer st.[..I am on the left] [ brother John on right]

Hope this finds you well . jim

Thanks for your words and pictures. Pity so much of your home area has gone, but at least the streets signs are still there, well, some of them!


 

From: "Ronald Sharratt" <janron@rsharratt.freeserve.co.uk>
To: <aidan@anamaria.u-net.com>
Subject: Memories
Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 09:45:21 +0100

Dear Aidan, Thanks for your pages and excellent pictures of Manchester which bring back many memories to me of home.

I grew up in Lime St Bradford Manchester in the fifties. We then moved out to Urmston in 1959 and I lived around that area until 71 when I moved to Whalley Range.

In 76 I left Manchester to set up home with my wife in her county of Sussex in 1976 and although I love this area I miss Manchester and the friendly down to earth folk there.

Ron Sharratt. janron@rsharratt.freeserve.co.uk

Thanks for your kind message - I was expecting Australia or Canada, until you said Sussex! At least you don't have as long a journey! I visited Sussex once - it's very pictureque, especially the cliffs near Eastbourne and the village of Alfriston. A well known Manchester writer has recently moved to Brighton, and says he prefers it to Manchester. Brighton is nice, I prefer it here!


From: Crescent38@aol.com
Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 11:05:56 EDT
Subject: Pubs
To: aidan@anamaria.u-net.com
MIME-Version: 1.0

My grandparents ran the Boars Head in Withy Grove (Shude Hill) - now gone w/ the bombing. It was an Inds Coops house. Main Brewery in Burton On Trent.

They also ran The Britannia on Newton Street, a Walkers & Homfray's (spelling correct according to my dad) house.

One of them used to afface the Evening Chronicle, Daily Dispatch,. Sunday
Dispatch offices.

They later ran The Howard Arms, Whittle Springs, Chorley. Lots of coaches..

I remember it well.
Regards, as always
Gaynor Brown

Hmmm, the Britannia on Newton St - where exactly is that?

As best as I can decipher from my dad's instructions.... walk past where the old Woolies (Woolworth's) used to be.. and the first street on the left is Newton Street. Up about 3/4/500 yards is the Britannia on the left.

Dad says it's still there. He also says if you keep going you will come to Great Ancoats St (then Great Ancoats Lane) and you came to Jersey Street, known in his day as "Little Italy". All the Italian immigrants lived around there. They were the ice cream people (surprise!). Granelli's, Piselli (spelling), Rays (spelling?). The Brittania was their "local".

The Boars Head used to afface the old newspaper building "Thompson House"... the Fleet St of the Manchester area.. All the papers were published there including the Daily Express. It used to also be an area of open air markets... ham, cheese, poultry, you name it.

He also remembers tunnels, mainly around the Cathedral area (gold mine of information my dad!). We're losing this history, Aidan, as they age and die. It's important we record it.

Keep up the good work!!! Gaynor Brown P.S. My grandparents names were Doris and Jim Brown

You're right, people tend to forget what it was like.


Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 22:38:25 -0700
From: Robert Santo <rsanto@bigfoot.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
To: aidan@anamaria.u-net.com
Subject: Looking for a Friend

Hi Aidan and greetings from Vancouver, British Columbia. I hope you can help me. My husband and I (smacks of HRH) came to Canada in 1969 and a while later my husband (Rob Santo) lost track of his school chum and good friend.

We are planning a visit to Manchester in July and I would very much like to see if I can find this fellow and surprise Rob with either an address or arrange a visit. Anything you could do to help would be greatly appreciated. Both boys lived in Urmston and went to Urmston Grammar. Tony Merrick (Meyrick ?) went to a secondary modern school as he did not pass his 11+ but quickly gathered strength as he finally ended up with a scholarship at Cambridge and read Economics.

He married a girl from Cambridge and in 1971 did move back to Manchester to live. That is the last we have heard of Tony. I am also trying to locate Patricia Crehan (maiden name) who managed the Halle Booking Office for many years in the 60/70s. Thanks so much for your help It's 11 years since I visited M/C.

What should we be sure to see on this visit? We will be staying in Wilmslow and Sale but enjoy travelling by road or train.

Keep the photos coming, they are great!

Gillian Santo (nee Briggs)

You should also notify "In Touch" that you're looking for this person. They may be able to print your request in the Manchester Evening News. Well, if you had a couple of hours I could recommend loads of places for you to visit, but off hand, I'd say Tatton Park - it's not to far from Sale and Wilmslow, and is superb!


Envelope-to: aidan@anamaria.u-net.com
Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 01:17:25 -0700
From: George Greatbanks <george_greatbanks@bc.sympatico.ca>
Reply-To: george_greatbanks@bc.sympatico.ca
MIME-Version: 1.0
To: "Aidan O'Rourke" <aidan@anamaria.u-net.com>
Subject: You've done it again

Hi Aidan, I haven't written in recent days simply because I had a lousy combination of a dilly of a dose of the flu' and a crashed machine.

While struggling with my coughing and sneezing I managed to do something dumb while downloading Netscape 4.6 and ended up having to wipe my 'C' drive clean and starting over. I'm awfully glad I'll be upgrading my 486 in the next week or two. But that aside, I still managed to watch United beat Newcastle last weekend and lift the European Cup on Wednesday. The drama of the Barcelona game was almost a carbon copy of their game against Liverpool in this years Cup run.

Folks I know over here often say I only support United because they are a good team, but there aren't many people still around who remember when they weren't. I remember watching them during the latter years of the 2nd World War and they weren't too swift then. Mind you, they had Jack Rowley and a few of the other stalwarts of Busby's early teams in place, but they also had a guy I remember called Billy Wrigglesworth.

I also remember Harry McShane coming to them from Bolton, he's the father of actor Ian McShane. So no, I don't watch them just because they're good.

Your photo of Maine Road in this weeks newsletter also brings back memories, such as being in the crowd for United versus Arsenal that set a League attendance record of 84,000 plus. I was sitting on the wall of the tunnel as many kids did then, watching spectators being handed over the top of the crowd on upraised hands after fainting, to sit on the field outside the fence. I remember the 5 game Cup marathon against Bradford, that ended at Maine Road and I sat in the stands after getting in through a broken gate after taking off from Manchester Central Grammar after roll call (no lights in those days).

Then there was United's first crisis in European Cup play when they had to beat Athletico Bilbao in the second leg by two or three clear goals and seeing them do it.

You also featured a photo of a model of the Withy Grove/Corporation Street corner. The Print Works used to be the old Evening Chronicle/Evening News building didn't it? Well, on the site of what is to be, or already is the Urbis Centre there used to be an old office building that housed Cumpsty Typewriters, I worked there for a year or so in '57/58.

I went to work with a man called John Perry, who along with his son had a reputation in the typewriter business, and other mechanics said I'd never get along with him but they were wrong, dead wrong. I found him to be a stern but fair man and we became pretty good friends. When I got married in June '57, John sent me to a major Cheetham Hill caterer who did most of the Jewish banquets, and I remember thinking I could never afford that, but the owner said if John sent me, he would do something. He did. A sit down meal at the St. Barnabas, Openshaw church hall, for 60 or 70 people including all the linen, china, crystal, silverware and cake stand including 5 staff and a late night buffet, plus a 7 piece live band and they did all the set-up and clean-up too. I can't remember the exact cost, but I remember it was peanuts in comparison to what I thought it would cost.

A picture of Barney's would be nice, although it isn't the old stone church we were married in, but all my three children were christened either in the old or new one and my wife attended their school at which her father was the caretaker for a number of years.

See, I told you that you had done it again, you got me reminiscing. Thanks for that and keep the memory jolts coming. Talk to you again soon. George

Have you ever thought of writing your memoirs? St Barnabas, Openshaw - I don't know it, but I'll look out for it. Thanks for your message.


From: "The Triggersons" <triggerson@globalserve.net>
To: "Eyewitness in Manchester" <aidan@anamaria.u-net.com>
Subject: Re: EWM Extra update
Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 07:29:32 -0400

Thank you Adrian for including the ex-pats in the excitement of victory. I did feel sorry that there had to be a loser, twas ever thus.

Might I request a photo or two of Fairfield Village.

Yes, here you are...

 

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